I fucked up my os D:

[lugsy]

I tried to install windows 7 to my pc. After picking which drive/partition or w/e to install it on (the only one I had).. it froze trying to get ready for the install. And now it freezes randomly throughout the installation process, anywhere from the same place to the very start of the process. Worst part is, I can't access my old stuff because it's already been whipped, mentions how there is no system 32 or w/e. Long story short, I don't know whats wrong or how to fix it. I unplugged all my usb stuff and my headset and shit, I used compressed air to clean the disk drive and the pc and I still don't get it. I think maybe my dvd drive is fucked or something... tried with 2 different copies of windows 7 so it's not the disk (same disks have worked for other pcs). I'm at the standpoint of pretty much asking for help here.. or going and paying a ridiculous price to get some 'expert' to look at it.
Help me Obi wan Technobi, you're my only hope.

[Freaky_Angelus]

what kinda pc you got, cuz W7 install is pretty slow imo..

also W7 64 / 32?

Did you do a format or tried an upgrade?

[lugsy]

what kinda pc you got, cuz W7 install is pretty slow imo..

also W7 64 / 32?

Did you do a format or tried an upgrade?

I formated, cuz can't upgrade from XP to 07.
and it's not that it's slow.. it freezes.. mouse stops moving etc. I left it go for like 2ish hours and was still stuck frozen at 0%. was trying 64, haven't been able to get back in far enough to try 32 yet.

[.bot.]

win 7 install is not anywhere near 2 hours, at least for myself, and ive done it a few times now =P
Are you installing to a blank partition? did you format everything? is it all in one partition now or is it still all set up in different ones?

[lugsy]

win 7 install is not anywhere near 2 hours, at least for myself, and ive done it a few times now =P
Are you installing to a blank partition? did you format everything? is it all in one partition now or is it still all set up in different ones?

installing clean.. cuz there is nothing on my pc now I'm guessing since there is no boot up if no disk.
and I know it doesn't take it that long, hence why I know it's frozen/broken.

[.bot.]

installing clean.. cuz there is nothing on my pc now I'm guessing since there is no boot up if no disk.
and I know it doesn't take it that long, hence why I know it's frozen/broken.

Do you have another computer you could throw the hdd in to see if installing on there works, could be an issue with your hdd itself and not a dvd drive

[Cosmic_Shame]

are u using a an old motherboard, and are u install Windows 7 64 bit, because if u are ur motherboard is probably only set to 32 bit which would mean u need to do a BIOS update, once u do that then ur computer will install 64bit windows 7.

I had that problem, if thats ur problem its an easy fix

[Zero Hour]

I'd check to see if you have any memory errors, could be an issue. Run a program called Memtest overnight (ie, at least 12 hours) to be sure it's not the ram. If that passes, try it on a different hard drive, that one could be crapping out, it happens.

[lugsy]

I'd check to see if you have any memory errors, could be an issue. Run a program called Memtest overnight (ie, at least 12 hours) to be sure it's not the ram. If that passes, try it on a different hard drive, that one could be crapping out, it happens.

I can't get into an OS to run anything.. lol, Just got my new ram in the mail, so will be able to double cross that off the list.
Comic, how would I go about doing that? and is there any negative effects?.. probably can't do it without the OS/internet.

[Cosmic_Shame]

I can't get into an OS to run anything.. lol, Just got my new ram in the mail, so will be able to double cross that off the list.
Comic, how would I go about doing that? and is there any negative effects?.. probably can't do it without the OS/internet.

well if u have another computer or access to a computer like at a library or something, go to ur motherboard's website, like my boards info is here http://www.gigabyte.us/Support/Motherboard/BIOS_Model.aspx?ProductID=2599&ver=#anchor_os

and i downloaded bios revision number 9 and installed it and it allowed me to install 64bit windows 7 before then it would only let me install XP 32 bit or any other 32 bit operating systems. With gigabyte they give u a floppy disk option which i know is obsolete, but my EVGA board allowed me to update from a CD, so u gotta go to ur manufacturers website and find out which way they allow you to install, if u can install from a CD u burn the files on the CD with instructions from their website and then u BOOT from the CD which will start the BIOS update, once its done ur BIOS is updated and u should be able to install 64bit

and there is no negative affects to updating a BIOS unless there is a failure in the process of the update which is rare

[Cosmic_Shame]

see i have the e8400 wolfdale, and my processor was not supported for 64bit so i had to flash the bios to revision 8, but cuz there was revision 9 i flashed it to revision 9.

check ur manufacturers website and find the latest one and flash it to that, so u dont have to worry about it later on

like here again http://www.gigabyte.us/Support/Motherboard/CPUSupport_Model.aspx?ProductID=2599&ver=#anchor_os

theres the CPU compatability, and the BIOS revision that i needed to get full support which was revision 8, but i flashed to 9 cuz there was another upgrade

[Zero Hour]

I can't get into an OS to run anything.. lol, Just got my new ram in the mail, so will be able to double cross that off the list.New Ram?? Most definitely cannot cross it off the list! I always run Memtest for 24-hours whenever I put new RAM in. you boot memtest off of a cd/usb/floopy (rofl) no need to go into the OS.

I also agree with Cosmic, could be the bios revision. If you don't know your mobo type, used CPU-Z and check the motherboard tab. It will at least make it easier to google.

[lugsy]

can't get to CPU-Z and I don't know my exact mother type cuz there are 6 versions of my "series" and it all the programs/bios etc just say which series.
I've now got windows 7 installed after putting my hard drive into my gf's computer, but now when it starts up it states that part of windows is broken and freezes on the start up repair thing.. any ideas?.. still the bios?

[Cosmic_Shame]

can't get to CPU-Z and I don't know my exact mother type cuz there are 6 versions of my "series" and it all the programs/bios etc just say which series.
I've now got windows 7 installed after putting my hard drive into my gf's computer, but now when it starts up it states that part of windows is broken and freezes on the start up repair thing.. any ideas?.. still the bios?

thats cuz ur windows wont boot cuz your girlfriends computer is not the same motherboard as urs, u need to install ur motherboard drivers and such on there. But from what i see u need a BIOS update and u need to find out what mobo u have and get the BIOS update.

Me and Zero Hour have almost identical motherboards, but his has 14 bios revisions and mine has 9, so u need to find out what ur board is exactly or else installing the wrong ones could fuck up ur computer bad. What u can do Lugsy is go on torrent website, and download Windows XP 32bit corporate edition, corporate edition asks for a key but doesnt ask u to validate, so use that until u figure out what ur mobo is with CPU-Z

which will look like this
http://i39.tinypic.com/33ngpqw.jpg

tells you the company, then it tells you the model, then a quick trip to google will give u the correct website and where to get the BIOS update

[Freaky_Angelus]

I've now got windows 7 installed after putting my hard drive into my gf's computer, but now when it starts up it states that part of windows is broken and freezes on the start up repair thing.. any ideas?.. still the bios?

LOL, you can almost never do that and the fact W7 allows to even start up is hands down on M$ and a product that doesn't suck.. You need an identical laptop to pull that joke ;)

Anywho...

It does start up but crashes when it starts to fix things... mem should be ok considering it does start up now, hdd is fine (otherwise no install) and I doubt cpu is a prob as it worked before.. leaving indeed only motherboard, but to be more specific, the drivers for it..

You can't get it to boot into safe mode?

Just the bios should not cause this and I think it's W7 not understanding your motherboard itself.. Ohw, we can try a very nice high tech 'slipstream the mobo drivers' in here, but... I never had to go that far, so I do know THAT is can be done and a general on HOW but.. that's it.. I usally fixed shit differently (or well.. frak laptops and simply bought a new mobo like I did 2 weeks ago)

sorry.. a bios update could work still, but I would guess on the mobo's drivers in W7..

[Cosmic_Shame]

Just the bios should not cause this and I think it's W7 not understanding your motherboard itself.. Ohw, we can try a very nice high tech 'slipstream the mobo drivers' in here, but... I never had to go that far, so I do know THAT is can be done and a general on HOW but.. that's it.. I usally fixed shit differently (or well.. frak laptops and simply bought a new mobo like I did 2 weeks ago)

sorry.. a bios update could work still, but I would guess on the mobo's drivers in W7..

i dont think his computer is booting, hes probably get a black text message on the startup saying that there is an error in his windows, but if he puts in the disk for Win 7 x64 bit and run the fixing agent its still gonna not work cuz his BIOS doesnt accept 64bit processing, i only know this is because it happened to me and it was a very frustrating day, had to install windows xp 32 do the bios update via internet, then had to reinstall windows Vista then upgrade to windows 7 took a painful 5-7 hours

because windows 7 will automatically install all his drivers when it boots, and then he can update his drivers manually through the internet

[lugsy]

it goes to go into windows then reboots. Then when it gets to the "choose windows 7 or older version of windows" the next screen says something along the lines of "last time we tried, we errored. Try again anyways? or Setup repair?"

[Cosmic_Shame]

it goes to go into windows then reboots. Then when it gets to the "choose windows 7 or older version of windows" the next screen says something along the lines of "last time we tried, we errored. Try again anyways? or Setup repair?"

no the problem is that u installed windows 7 on another motherboard, if they are not identical motherboards ur system will never boot correctly. Even if u do the repair it probably wont work, it might but i doubt it

id reinstall windows XP 32 bit update ur BIOS drivers on ur motheroboard, then install windows 7 64bit, thats what i would do

Lugsy check ur private messages i sent u a link and some keys

[lugsy]

Ah, I never knew installing on a different mother board would mess it up. D: Thought someone would have said that sooner when I mentioned I put my harddrive into my girlfriends pc to install it since before that I was guessing that my dvd reader was messed.

[Cosmic_Shame]

Ah, I never knew installing on a different mother board would mess it up. D: Thought someone would have said that sooner when I mentioned I put my harddrive into my girlfriends pc to install it since before that I was guessing that my dvd reader was messed.

yeah like if its an asus board, and u buy another asus board, SOMETIMES u can get it to boot, but most the time it never works. I think freaky got his to boot from asus to asus, but i went from an EVGA to a Gigabyte, and it would not boot. I would just install XP the copy i sent in the private message, and if that doesnt install theres somethin fucked up. Cuz that should install on any working computer. Then if it boots up, do a BIOS update to the latest one (highest number) then try to install win 7 64bit, it should work then

[Zero Hour]

Thought someone would have said that sooner when I mentioned I put my harddrive into my girlfriends pc to install it since before that I was guessing that my dvd reader was messed.Wat, where did you say that? But good you fixed your problem, yeah mobos would cause the kernel to fail since it uses a different instruction set.

Yuppie, another mystery solved!

[Cosmic_Shame]

shit i didnt read that ur disk drive was fucked

[lugsy]

I thought it was fucked.. it reads.. it was just freezing. so I thought that was to do with my disk drive. but you guys have said it's because of my mobo.. I'm still using my gf's pc, waiting for my friend to burn me a copy of XP. Since the burner in this pc doesn't work for some reason.

[Cosmic_Shame]

I thought it was fucked.. it reads.. it was just freezing. so I thought that was to do with my disk drive. but you guys have said it's because of my mobo.. I'm still using my gf's pc, waiting for my friend to burn me a copy of XP. Since the burner in this pc doesn't work for some reason.

yeah once u get the BIOS update, im almost sure Win 7 will install. Good luck

[Freaky_Angelus]

BIOS update doesn't take an OS being installed..

Plus...

WTF??? Cosmic the pc guru? Wisdom is with the turtle not the hare, son cosmic. Take the steps to wisdom with consideration not with speed.

USB with BIOS + BIOS Flash program

[Cosmic_Shame]

USB with BIOS + BIOS Flash program

see that would be fine, but depending on the company u cant do that. Gigabyte only does it through floppy or internets or through windoos

EVGA only does it via CDrom

different for all companies

[Freaky_Angelus]

USB can be made bootable and seen as an HDD.

Handy to have btw.. Never any worries on stuff not working :D

[stewlounse]

The easiest way to update my BIOS on Gigabyte GA-P55-UD4P is a thumb drive with only the bios update on it. Boot computer and enter Q-Flash, update directly from thumb drive.

@BIOS works too but from within Windows.

[lugsy]

Tried installing XP again and it's completely just fucked up...
Future shop wants me to pay $100 for them to bring it back to basic windows xp, or buy a windows 7 disk and still give them $100 to get that on it. Shame this is all after buying $100 4gb DDR2 ram for my current pc. /facepalm .. might see if I can send that back.
have maybe ~$900.. can someone here find the parts to build/find a decent pc (just need tower, no monitor keyboard mouse etc. Was looking at a tower at future shop while thinking about paying them to fix it.
The one I was looking at were one of these. Only unsure really cuz I don't know Radeon graphics cards also, I don't know about processors/motherboards.
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/gateway-gateway-intel-core-i3-530-2-93ghz-computer-dx4831-01c-dx4831-01c/10137089.aspx?path=2a8acdd16d2b4d8e724eb2539facdb3den02
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/hewlett-packard-hp-pavilion-amd-athlon-ii-630-quad-core-2-8ghz-computer-p6310f-p6310f/10137266.aspx?path=e4d499e9ec6767452f66ee7b3b4bed93en02
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/gateway-gateway-intel-core-i3-530-2-93ghz-computer-dx4831-05c-dx4831-05c/10138088.aspx?path=2cc5eb50f6e2127bb8dcd7f8cf017fffen02

[Cosmic_Shame]

in my opinion, those are all overpriced. Id build ur own

[Freaky_Angelus]

Elaborate please..

XP did not work? Why not? Errors mentioning stuff? Cuz it starts to really sound like mobo drivers that need to be added at install.

[Zero Hour]

Lugsy, I'll build you something and meet you half way :P

Don't buy any of those pos computers from FS