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Mechagodzilla
01-10-2010, 06:25 PM
Yeah, I made it.
So heres mine.


Kritzkreig seems fine, though with the CTF crit boost it becomes inferior when that option is used.
Blut is fine.
I think The Ubersaw needs one little thing;
-Slower Heal Rate
Then it would give people a reason to use the Bone saw

The Force-a-Nature would have been fine with all of it's original stats, without the knockback and triple jump, and no damage reduction. Then it's useful.
Bonk should have no knockback and no slowdown. however, you still would have to wait for it to recharge.
Sandman should be scrapped entirely and give the scout something that removes his pistol and gives him a third jump.

Soldiers weapons are fine, but Equalizer shouldn't randomly crit.

The Backburner should still have crits on the back, but make it do half damage on anything but the back, and you still have an airblast, but it costs 50 ammo. So you have something to get you out of tight spots.
Flare Gun is fine, Axe-sting is fine.

Demoman's SR should be able to see Stickies through solid objects.
I can't say that the Targe and Eyelander are fine, but I just really cant figure out if it is overpowered or underpowered.

Sandwich and KGB are fine. There doesn't need to be a minigun unlock, so remove Natascha, and put in something that removes shotgun and makes it so that the heavy has his regular walking speed while revved up, and a faster revving speed.

Jarate is fine.
Razorback should be hidden, permanent, and has 50% explosion resistance from the back. But fire burns it off, so the pyro is the only one who can remove it.
Melee should be a Boomerang, slower attack speed and shorter range, but can throw it and it's damage increases with distance, though it returns after mid range. While the boomerang is out, the sniper has no way of melee, but can switch to other weapons.

Spy's Cloak And Dagger should have a much faster cloak and decloak. And if you stand still for longer than... lets say 10 seconds, it shorts out and you cant cloak for 10 seconds.
Dead Ringer, in theory is fine, though lots of small details need to be changed.
And the Ambassador should be replaced with something that allows the spy to run at scout speed while cloaked.

There. Now it's your turn.

Bonemasher
01-10-2010, 11:10 PM
I'm not sure I agree with alot of these. Except maybe the equalizer one.

Ones I'd add would be that....

The demos nades need a serious nerf, make it so any grenade that does not hit anyone, has a 75% damage reduction, so that these random spam kills dont happen.

Stickies need a bigger drop off in splash damage, I'm fine with dieing when a sticky is detonated right on me, but when i die from one that is 50 feet away it annoys me.

Also I think the KBG needs a minor speed increase after the first kill, so you go at least demo speed for 5 seconds while you have the garunteed crit, so you can go on punching sprees a little easier.

Infiniti
01-10-2010, 11:31 PM
Razorback should be hidden, permanent, and has 50% explosion resistance from the back. But fire burns it off, so the pyro is the only one who can remove it.
And the Ambassador should be replaced with something that allows the spy to run at scout speed while cloaked.

So a spy CAN'T kill the exact class it's supposed to be countering?

Unless you count the 7 front stabs it will take, but a lot of these ideas seem fairly lacking.

Ramanag
01-11-2010, 12:03 AM
Mecha doesn't care about spies. Note that his revamp to the C&D all but defeats the purpose of it. He hates us! *pout*

I'd agree with the equalizer if the soldier had a way of getting crits with it otherwise (as I don't think he does, but I'm no solly expert). Mini crits from the buff banner don't count. Every other weapon IIRC that disables random crits has some way to get them anyway.

Personally, I think nerfing the ubersaw's damage a bit would be more fair than healing speed. Pretty much everyone other than hardcore combat medics would trade it out if it lowered healing speed.

Fishboy
01-11-2010, 12:58 AM
Note that his revamp to the C&D all but defeats the purpose of it.

Agreed x 10, terrible idea

I think most of the classes are find except the soldier and demo

Mechagodzilla
01-13-2010, 12:51 PM
I didn't expect anyone to care. I hate you all anyway.

Brains
01-13-2010, 01:05 PM
well they are caring by displaying their opinions on what you said.
if no one cared, then no one would have replied.
it's called tough love

Mechagodzilla
01-13-2010, 04:30 PM
well they are caring by displaying their opinions on what you said.
if no one cared, then no one would have replied.
it's called tough love

I jest anyway. But yeah, my opinions do suck.