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Kaplan
12-16-2009, 01:28 PM
I figure I would create this thread so that we have a place that everyone can share/confirm blueprints.

I plan on using this account to determine new blueprints. If anyone has any suggestions on dupe items or hats let me know.

http://www.tf2items.com/id/Variable_

The first thing I plan on doing is crafting FAN, Bonk and Sandman to see what we get.

Then I plan on trying out Medic Mirror, Blutsauger, Kritzkrieg, Ubersaw. Hopefully this combination will give out the Vintage Tyrolean. :D

Bonemasher
12-16-2009, 01:45 PM
My inventory is full of blutsaugers and both watch types. Probably gonna experiment with them.

Brains
12-16-2009, 01:58 PM
and I'll scower the internet for blueprints. I'm sure the tf2 wiki will be a main source for blueprints, so maybe even just putting a link to there would be good ahhaha

StarYoshi
12-16-2009, 01:59 PM
I just want to find a way to make my axetinguisher crit harder.

Crazy Ivan
12-16-2009, 02:18 PM
nsy seems to think that crafting 2 bonk! drinks and the batter's helmet will make the bonk hat, me on the other hand, i'm gonna be using my ton of dupes a little more randomly and see what happens besides "dupe+dupe+dupe=scrap"

CookiesForBreakfast
12-16-2009, 02:44 PM
I have five of every single item, so I can craft a lot. :D I have two ghastly gibus as well, so maybe one of those turns into the ultimate backstabbing knife! muahaahahha

Brains
12-16-2009, 02:52 PM
i'm gonna save my dupes until I know which blueprints work. also, I think valve may give out blueprints. cant just leave it up to players to craft everything hoping to get lucky. diablo 2 gave away the list of recipes for the horadric cube ... and THAT WAS A PERFECT GAME

Kaplan
12-16-2009, 04:24 PM
i'm gonna save my dupes until I know which blueprints work. also, I think valve may give out blueprints.

According to Valve, some blueprints will be known right away and others we will need to figure out. That's why I will use the account that I linked above to figure them out. I just need you guys to make suggestions.

I think I'm gonna try to craft one hat (Engineer cap) and see what happens, hopefully, it won't just turn to "useful scrap metal"

http://www.teamfortress.com/crafting/

Looks like there's twelve slots. I will fill up all twelve, from Scout to Medic unlocks, and report the results back when the update is out.

Anyone else think that having the ability to craft items, will, at some point in the future, allow unlocks to have different attributes?

I don't think Valve would make a crafting system just for people to get hats, that, in my opinion, would be a waste of time and resources for the dev team.

Scruga
12-16-2009, 05:43 PM
It could be possible that you can make the pros and cons more extreme. Like saying with the new rocket launcher. Increasing damage but an even smaller blast radius. The balance would be the same while it will still alter gameplay. Would not work with every item though.

themuddaload
12-16-2009, 06:21 PM
yeah, im going to hang back for a while till other people figure out what works and what doesnt.

Kaito
12-16-2009, 06:46 PM
I'll go all out...except for a few hats. I'll try as much as I feel needed. Ritzy Rick's Fixative + Huntsman + Razorback + Jarate = ????? That, I really want to figure out.

Brains
12-16-2009, 09:20 PM
well I don't think its going to be as crazy as people think ahah
the items you will craft either come from combining scrap metal with a real weapon and others will be just from actual weapons...but I'm just basing this on Diablo 2's horadric cube system. just worked so well there that valve would be silly not to at least follow it somewhat. also this system is similar to runescape's even more than diablo's because you are able to smelt things down into metal bars and then make certain things out of them. man im' just excited for this. I have 2 pages full of dupes I just don't want to waste them. I'd gladly make items for other people if there is a recipe you know. once trading kicks in i'd gladly give you the crafted item

Cosmic_Shame
12-16-2009, 09:46 PM
ur ognna have to use boxing gloves to make hats, just makes sense its like the only cloth material

Kaplan
12-16-2009, 10:32 PM
I'll go all out...except for a few hats. I'll try as much as I feel needed. Ritzy Rick's Fixative + Huntsman + Razorback + Jarate = ????? That, I really want to figure out.

Don't give up your hat. I'll do it with the Medic mirror, which I have a dupe of.

Most likely whatever the result is for Medic mirror + Blutsauger + Kritzkrieg + Ubersaw is the same for yours.

Scruga
12-17-2009, 03:20 AM
i wish i could just get 1 medic hat. I want to be recognized

Crazy Ivan
12-17-2009, 09:23 PM
i don't think you can make even more powerful items using the crafting system, i just don't see it working that way, it'll probably be more sensible then simply combining FAN+FAN+FAN=SFAN! i REALLY doubt that you can "upgrade" as it seems you guys want it to be, your weapons. it doesn't make sense to me, to try to combine weapons to get better versions, wouldn't that overpower some classes and leave others completely useless?

privateer0506
12-17-2009, 11:58 PM
also i wonder what the levels are for,i have mostly lvl10 bb but also a lvl 70 and lvl72 will not be wasting them for scrap!!!

klossi
12-18-2009, 01:28 AM
ok i got 3 combinations:

3 melee weapons of same type --> scrap metal
3 secondary weapons of same type --> scrap metal
3 scrap metal --> reclaimed metal
3 reclaimed metal --> refined metal
4 refined metal + 1 class token --> 1 hat for your favored class



omfg that's taking ages.

nvncble
12-18-2009, 02:06 AM
how do you get a class token?

Im gonna put all 10 of my hats in at once, will get a super hat when its all said and done :p

klossi
12-18-2009, 07:28 AM
class token you can read up in the existing blueprints. it's 4x the same item. if you merge together 4 huntsmen or jarate or razorbacks you get a sniper token, 4 sandviches or KGB or natasha is a heavy token and so on.

klossi
12-18-2009, 07:46 AM
new find:

1 of each weapon of a class --> scrap metal


edit: ok apparently it has to be 1 primary, 1 secondary and one melee weapon. this means you cannot combine huntsman, jarate and razorback and also not cloak and dagger, dead ringer and ambassador. hell i couldnt even merge 3 of my cloak and dagger because they are not really a weapon.

Crux
12-18-2009, 09:02 AM
Yea for some stupid reason you can't smelt the dead ringer or cloak and dagger into scrap metal

themuddaload
12-18-2009, 09:02 AM
how do you get a class token?

Im gonna put all 10 of my hats in at once, will get a super hat when its all said and done :p

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


give them to mud instead =P

nvncble
12-18-2009, 09:07 AM
I just crafted a bunch of class and slot tokens :p

Any1 have any of the new demo/solly weapons?

klossi
12-18-2009, 09:42 AM
i got equalizer, scottish resistance and targe. targe is sooo awesome <3

nvncble
12-18-2009, 10:49 AM
so you can craft 2 hats -> 1 random hat.
*cant use gibbous or Halloween mask*


I did a bunch and got shit, oh wells

privateer0506
12-18-2009, 10:53 AM
if you craft 3 slot tokens you get scrap metal, lost alot that way

privateer0506
12-18-2009, 10:55 AM
also anyone know what a slot token -pda2 (looks like demoman bottle) is

privateer0506
12-18-2009, 11:08 AM
so far i have 9 blueprints;

smelt melee weapons --> 3 same melee = 1 scrap metal
smelt primary weapons --> 3 same primary = 1 scrap metal
smelt secondary weapons--> 3 same secondary = 1 scrap metal
combine scrap metal --> 3 scrap metal = 1 reclaimed metal
combine reclaimed metal --> 3 reclaimed metal= 1 refined metal
fabricate headgear --> 3 refined metal = 1 random headgear
fabricate slot token --> 4 weapons same slot any class = 1 slot token
fabricate class token --> 4 weapons same class = 1 class token of that class
fabricate class headgear --> 4 refined metal + 1 class token same slot = 1 class headgear

klossi
12-18-2009, 11:27 AM
can someone explain in detail what a slot token is? i really dont get behind that.

themuddaload
12-18-2009, 12:29 PM
can someone explain in detail what a slot token is? i really dont get behind that.

it dictates what class or particular slot a crafted item will end up being (demo, solly, medic...) (primary, alt, melee, hat, etc)

Devant
12-18-2009, 01:25 PM
so far, the crafting update is basically only good for getting hats. An hour in walkway and I was able to get all weapons for demo and solly...

Bonemasher
12-18-2009, 01:53 PM
Klossi, you put them together with refined metal, like a spy slot token plus 4 refined metal, is a spy hat.

Snix
12-18-2009, 02:10 PM
Jarate+kritz+uber as someone said the other nite lol dang that would be sweet!

Kaplan
12-18-2009, 02:39 PM
also you can craft 2 hats -> 1 random hat.

Yeah. Some guy on Steam Forums tried to change his hat by crafting 2 Demoman fros...and ended up with a Demoman fro. Poor guy.

I got a Trophy Belt, Brigade Helm and Baker Boy hats trying it. All hats that I didn't have before. Phew.

I wish I could craft the Soldier's medal. Anyone know if it's possible?

Kaplan
12-19-2009, 01:35 PM
http://www.tf2items.com/crafting/blueprints.php

List of all the blueprints. Thanks to Cosmic Shame for pointing it out.

privateer0506
12-19-2009, 01:50 PM
any figure out the SLOT TOKEN -PDA2, looks like demo bottle?

privateer0506
12-19-2009, 02:03 PM
here is a pix
http://imgsrc.com/pages/3233504_tf2_slot_token_pda2/
http://imgsrc.com/uploads/images/3233504_tf2_slot_token_pda2.jpghosted at imgsrc (http://imgsrc.com/)

Jasin
12-19-2009, 02:11 PM
That crafting webpage is helpful, Thanks

Jasin
12-19-2009, 02:46 PM
I'm dumb, I started crafting alot of stuff, Don't know what I was thinking, Now I don't have most the weapons I normally use. Need Cloak and Dagger back :(

netwalker
12-19-2009, 03:06 PM
Need to craft heavy a minigun that doesn't suck, aka Natascha...

Jasin
12-19-2009, 03:19 PM
Need trading system, I had 4 of those.

privateer0506
12-19-2009, 04:08 PM
ok today they changed the slot token pda2 pix to this

http://imgsrc.com/uploads/images/1685641_new_slot_token_pda2_pix.jpghosted at imgsrc (http://imgsrc.com/)

Kaplan
12-19-2009, 04:27 PM
any figure out the SLOT TOKEN -PDA2, looks like demo bottle?

It was available when the update went live, for the spy watches, but they locked PDA2 so that you're unable to craft that particular item anymore. Hold onto that rare item. I can't believe I said that.

Devant
12-19-2009, 04:38 PM
Crafting system is annoying. I did the 3 refined metals...which is like 100 something items worth of metal, and got a backbiter's billycock (which brought my spy hat count up to 3) and since I never play spy I decided to craft my fancy fedora (which is special because it was within the first hour of the classless update) and this new backbiter's billycock and what do I get??? Another backbiter's billycock. stupid

Kaplan
12-20-2009, 01:57 AM
Crafting system is annoying. I did the 3 refined metals...which is like 100 something items worth of metal, and got a backbiter's billycock (which brought my spy hat count up to 3)


I've been hording items since Robin first hinted at a crafting system months ago and I only have 1 refined metal and 2 reclaimed metal. The first hat I plan on crafting is a Soldier hat. It will prolly take me a while, but it will be worth it.


since I never play spy I decided to craft my fancy fedora (which is special because it was within the first hour of the classless update) and this new backbiter's billycock and what do I get??? Another backbiter's billycock. stupid


Valve is trying to tell you something...become a master spy.

privateer0506
12-20-2009, 03:13 PM
i actually have 2 of these, too bad i do not play spy

Brains
12-21-2009, 10:48 AM
http://www.tf2items.com/crafting/blueprints.php
http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Crafting
useful for those who want to craft.

Kaplan
12-22-2009, 04:24 PM
YouTube- TF2 Crafting 8 Hats


The guy started off with 3 refined metals and 10 hats. Poor guy.

Crux
12-22-2009, 06:01 PM
I don't think I have the guts to craft 2 of my hats for a random hat (unless they were both duplicates). With my luck I would probably end up with one of the ones I put in like the guy in the vid, or something crappy like the hatless sniper or engy

Kaplan
12-22-2009, 08:29 PM
New recipes added in today's update. I hope it makes it easier to craft metal! I can't stand that we have to use three identical items to make metal. I should be able to craft metal from the KGB, Sandman, and the Ubersaw.

Jasin
12-22-2009, 08:35 PM
I don't know about idential weapons. but I know you can mix the follow.

All 3 class weapons - primary, 2nd and melee.

any 3 primary of any class.

Any 3 secondard of any class

any 3 melee of any class

CookiesForBreakfast
12-22-2009, 10:22 PM
I don't know about idential weapons. but I know you can mix the follow.

All 3 class weapons - primary, 2nd and melee.

any 3 primary of any class.

Any 3 secondard of any class

any 3 melee of any class

Wow really? I'm going to try that right now and if it works, I can make my spy hat. :D

Cosmic_Shame
12-22-2009, 10:25 PM
any confirmation on this????

Crux
12-22-2009, 11:37 PM
edit: nm I misread the post

Bonemasher
12-23-2009, 01:11 PM
Hmm I was reading some stuff, and if you use the "rebuild class token" blueprint, you can get an engy class token, which is uselss at the moment, but if you were to save enough of them you could get the the engy weapons the exact moment the update comes out.

I'm not gonna do it cause it wastes to many items though.

Kaplan
01-28-2010, 01:36 AM
Website has been updated to include the 3 new hats in today's (1/27) update.

http://www.tf2items.com/crafting/blueprints.php

Cosmic_Shame
01-28-2010, 01:41 AM
thats such garbage, u know what the damn rate for getting those hats are, its insane. I wanted to craft random hat but im gonna end up getting one of those. Im just saying couldnt have been a worse time when i got 2 refined and almost ready for the next

Devant
01-28-2010, 02:03 AM
I'm tempted to craft all my metal and extras to be one of the first with the tower, but I know i'll get all hatless stuff.

Ramanag
01-28-2010, 02:25 AM
Oh for crap's sake, those are all included in the classes hats now? It was bad enough when I had a 1 in 3 chance of getting the damn hat I wanted, now it's 1 in 6? I call foul on valve.

klossi
01-28-2010, 03:15 AM
wth? i only need 1 more spy item to craft my spy hat and now i have a chance of 2 in 5? bullshit

Crux
01-28-2010, 09:46 AM
Yea I would hang on to your metal for a while until they (hopefully) fix this, Klossi. As it stands, if you were to craft a spy hat with 4 RF and a spy token you would actually have a better chance of crafting something that ISN'T a spy hat than you do of crafting something that is.

Brains
01-28-2010, 10:07 AM
my suggestion to everyone:

don't craft for hats. ever. wait for trading. by then, the hat crafting formulas should be good enough so that we don't get screwed for using them. also, when you do craft a hat then, you can just trade the hat you got and didn't want to someone else. giving you a 1 hat for 1 hat trade. dont EVER EVER EVER do that 2 hat for 1 random at thing...that's just stupid. only craft items into scrapped metal when you run out of room in your backpack. (and increase the metal quality when you acquire enough of the lower metal quality). save your items for trading when they will actually be useful.

if you've waited this long for getting a hat you want, waiting another few months should be no biggie.

CookiesForBreakfast
01-28-2010, 12:48 PM
Yea I would hang on to your metal for a while until they (hopefully) fix this, Klossi. As it stands, if you were to craft a spy hat with 4 RF and a spy token you would actually have a better chance of crafting something that ISN'T a spy hat than you do of crafting something that is.

I crafted a spy hat and got a spy hat! :D I didn't know there was a bug.

Ramanag
01-28-2010, 01:40 PM
you crafted another spy hat, cookies?

Fishboy
01-28-2010, 02:54 PM
Im glad I crafted my spy hat a few weeks ago, I would have been pissed if I got a generic hat when I used the spy token