One last problem (hopefully)

[lugsy]

hopefully I'll get it figured out before someone posts (friend is coming over to lend me a hand/lend me some disks), but I finally got my pc here, I've put it together and when It loads up it asks for the system disk or w/e and doesn't recognize my windows 7 disk. Now the mobo says it has windows 7 support.. but does that mean it needs XP first, to upgrade then go to windows 7?

[Freaky_Angelus]

W7 disk.. is it a full install disk or an upgrade disk?

The latter would be an annoying thing M$ invented that needs a XP install, sadly..

However, is your pc in the bios setup properly? As in are you pointing to the correct disk to boot from? no system disk would mean your HDD is not there (or connected correctly)

[lugsy]

the bios is loading, and I'm telling it to load off the Cd, but it does nothing. And how do I know if my hdd is plugged in correctly?

[Cosmic_Shame]

the bios is loading, and I'm telling it to load off the Cd, but it does nothing. And how do I know if my hdd is plugged in correctly?

u plug the power cord from the PSU in and then u plug the SATA cable into the cable, not much 2 it, if u have a HDD u should be able to hear it spinning if u get real close to it

but as freaky said if bought an upgrade disk instead of a Operating system disk this could be the source of ur problem, but u should be able to get to the windows install screen even if u have an update disk. If your not getting to that somethin is not working

[Clone]

XP doesn't upgrade tho, at least I don't think, unless you totally clean your HD. It's Vista that upgrades to 7 w/o a clean install.

[Freaky_Angelus]

XP also does update.

You can check in the bios if it can read your HDD.. both on size and type etc.. This is also where it should tell you you have a CDROM working.

Does it do anything when starting? Sounds on the cd spinning, any screen? hitting space bar?

[lugsy]

got it going, thanks guys.

[lugsy]

lol of course after getting msn and stuff back on my pc, I try to put on the antivirus that came with the mobo, and in doing so get a blue screen of death. which system restore wanted to "return to a previously safe save".. so I did it.. and got back to square 1 lol. damnit

[Clone]

ahhhhhhhhh. should go with avg.


----scratch that; iobit security 360

-------or if you're like me and get into high risk activities both, plus malware bytes, plus CCleaner

[Cosmic_Shame]

i dont use anti virus, then freaky was like ur crazy, then i was like fine, so i downloaded Spyware Doctor to just see and boom i dont got shit. Win 7 is very good at blocking bull shit unlike XP

[Brains]

no antivirus for me either. no use for it if you don't do anything stupid.
if you're a stupid person and download random things...then antivirus is for you.

[Clone]

well for me it's a must cuz i'm always be downloading torrents of games, software, music, etc.

[Brains]

so do I. easier to have a stand alone program scan the downloaded files on an external drive than have antivirus software running on your computer.

block one wrong file and you're computer could potentially not boot up anymore.
antivirus programs are so stupid and aren't smart enough to adapt to what a user users a computer for. until the day antivirus software has AI built in...I won't use it.

[Freaky_Angelus]

No offense... No anti-virus means you are not connected to the internet..

It is a proven fact that even pc's WITHOUT USERS get infected in a matter of hours (ON AVERAGE) when connected..

Using an anti-virus is a must, however, use one that is low resources and merely to check your actions (and unwanted actions)... Even the best av's need a huge 'training' to do only what is desired.

[Cosmic_Shame]

No offense... No anti-virus means you are not connected to the internet..

It is a proven fact that even pc's WITHOUT USERS get infected in a matter of hours (ON AVERAGE) when connected..

Using an anti-virus is a must, however, use one that is low resources and merely to check your actions (and unwanted actions)... Even the best av's need a huge 'training' to do only what is desired.

this is the only one i dont believe u on freaky :) i trust u with every other computer need, except the anti virus

[Freaky_Angelus]

Fine here are some examples of being misguided on viri..

Research with a free scanner (http://www.surfright.nl/en/home/press/32-percent-infected-despite-antivirus)
32% with up-to-date scanner are infected
46% without up-to-date scanner are infected

Old statement from 2006.. 12 minutes (http://www.sapiensbryan.com/index.php/50-chance-pc-get-infacted-in-12-minutes/)

Even older, 2004, saying 20 minutes (http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/262)

same kind of article but from 2008 (http://www.qondio.com/how-quickly-can-you-get-infected)

The story is real and if you're not infected yet, congrats! Chances are against you in the future. If you run firewalls, additional routers and other options then YES, you might survive some time.. If you run UNIX, you're probably very safe considering the structure that uses, but still. No AV under the assumption you can handle it, is a dangerous call to make.

[stewlounse]

NOD32 is gamer friendly, not a resource hog, and is of the best AV programs out there. I'll always run it, it is awesome. Paired with ccleaner..I haven't been able to do any better.

[Brains]

sorry angelus, antivirus is for chumps.
most viruses attack stupid people :D
why would someone spend extra time to create a virus/worm/trojan/whatever to try and infect people with any kind of computer IQ? most viruses don't come through torrents because the people who KNOW how to use torrents know how to ensure they aren't getting screwed with a virus. most viruses/garbage comes from social networking sites. anywhere where retards are using the internet with their guards down. facebook, myspace, retarded flash game websites, anywhere where people get tricked into advertisements, completely transparent <a> links to "look alike" websites where they get phished for passwords and stuff. if you know what you're doing, you're already safe.

antivirus is for people who don't know what they are doing, which is the majority of computer users. the ONLY way I'm going to be screwed is if someone is watching my port for traffic, which I don't monitor for because I feel my router is pretty well setup the way I have it. so the only way my computer will get any virus worth noting is if I don't pay attention to what I'm doing...which is never if I'm actually using a part of the internet where I'm prone to get such things.

better safe than sorry though....so antivirus is okay if you aren't too comfortable with watching yourself. most antivirus software sucks though lol

I just regularly (like once every two weeks) run ccleaner, windows defender (and sometimes spybot, adaware) and it does the job.

just pay attention. if you are the type to use myspace and all those retarded social networking sites...then use an antivirus app. facebook so far has been pretty clean because they don't let you embed html on their pages (which myspace allows)

[Clone]

antivirus is for people who don't know what they are doing, which is the majority of computer users. the ONLY way I'm going to be screwed is if someone is watching my port for traffic, which I don't monitor for because I feel my router is pretty well setup the way I have it. so the only way my computer will get any virus worth noting is if I don't pay attention to what I'm doing...which is never if I'm actually using a part of the internet where I'm prone to get such things.

better safe than sorry though....so antivirus is okay if you aren't too comfortable with watching yourself. most antivirus software sucks though lol



yes, well. I have AVs to just help assist me. Like if I'm going to try and get keygens I always seem to come across trojans. So i have AVG and iobit assisting me in figuring out of the download was bad or not but I always run malware bytes to actually fight it of. There was one weekend even when trying to get the full version of malware bytes via keygen where I go 2 different trojans and was able to get rid of it using the free. ---I didnt try getting a keygen after the 2nd.

:( no free full malware-bytes for me.

[Freaky_Angelus]

@Brains

We had several peepz from China and Russia trying to hack our server in the past.. Considering it was a mac with linux installed, the guyz had a hard time.. To add, my former housemate was the sys-op and he enjoyed people like that trying to hack it. He usually just hacked their pc.. posted a message like "Guess who will be deleting your entire pc if you ever come back again" followed by a reboot of their pc.

Never saw them again, obviously.

For as the why... seriously? You think they need a why? They write this for the kick, the idea, just as kids, that they are something when they infect the world. Yes, most viri are bs obvious things, but don't think you are not getting affected when you are not doing things, you are.. THAT was what those articles were about. The fact pc's get infected by JUST being connected.

Hell, you don't believe me.. turn down all security and just boot up the pc.. log in and WALK AWAY... Come back 1 hour (statistics so.. give it a bit more) and do a scan, dare to bet? Firewalls and proper setup keep you from 90% but the remaining 10% is still so much.

[stewlounse]

Most keygens come across as trojans because of the way they work, most of them are safe.

I have to disagree with the "AV is for stupid people"...that is such an untrue statement. I could easily turn that around and say, "people who think AV is useless is stupid", and it would be just as accurate.

For example, I HAVE had viruses get on to more than one computer, just simply by installing windows, installing the ethernet drivers, and making the cable connection...the second the ethernet cable is hooked up to the modem..BAM..insta virus, coming from the ISP. There is nothing you can do about that, no "watching" yourself, no way of telling if there's viruses floating around in a network that yours works through. The only way to fix those probs was to reinstall windows and make sure AV was on the PC before hooking up to the internet. Or, if you are a specific target of a particular hacker, whether you are smart/stupid or not..if they want something you have, you better protect your ass.

The first mistake you're making is assuming you're safe without AV, you're not. BUT, you're not exactly "safe" with AV either. Having smarts and AV is the best way to go.

[Brains]

ehhh...I don't know what you guys consider viruses then.
I'm more worried about dormant botnets than a goofy "virus" sent over an ISP.
but who knows....AV if you feel unsafe I guess.

who's up for some BC2? :D

[stewlounse]

Yea I dunno what was up then either, but it happened, and more than once.

[netwalker]

And oldschool porn sites also can give you viruses. Virtual STD.

I-prechache

[stewlounse]

lol... and the "christian" chat rooms...

[Brains]

....stay away from those chat rooms!

[stewlounse]

roflflf, not saying i go there. but ive seen it happen lol.

[Brains]

lol suuuure sure stew ;)